Defining a sense of belonging can be complicated for ‘third culture kids’ – children raised in a culture other than that of their parents. Layla F. Saad (Me And White Supremacy) is a child of East African and Omani parents who grew up in Wales, before living in East Africa, the UK and Qatar, where she is now based. Tomasz Jedrowski (Swimming in the Dark) was born in Germany to Polish parents and has also lived in France, the UK and Mexico. In conversation with Santilla Chingaipe, Layla and Tomasz discuss what it means to know where you’re from and where you belong.

Tomasz Jedrowski (International)

Tomasz Jedrowski

Tomasz Jedrowski is a graduate of Cambridge University and Université de Paris. He was born in Germany to Polish parents and has lived in several countries, including Poland. He now lives in the Forest of Orleans in France. Tomasz speaks five languages and writes in English. Swimming in the Dark is his first novel.

Layla F. Saad (International)

Layla F. Saad

Layla F. Saad is a globally respected writer, speaker and podcast host on the topics of race, identity, leadership, personal transformation and social change. As an East African, Arab, British, Black, Muslim woman who was born and grew up in the West, and lives in the Middle East, Layla has always sat at a unique intersection of identities from which she is able to draw rich and intriguing perspectives. Layla's work is driven by her powerful desire to 'become a good ancestor'; to live and work in ways that leave a legacy of healing and liberation for those who will come after she is gone. Me And White Supremacy is Layla's first book. Initially offered for free following an Instagram challenge under the same name, the bestselling digital Me And White Supremacy Workbook was downloaded by close to 90,000 people around the world in the space of six months, before becoming a traditionally published book. Layla earned her Bachelor of Law degree from Lancaster University in the United Kingdom. She lives in Doha, Qatar, with her husband and two children. 

Santilla Chingaipe (Australian)

Santilla Chingaipe

Santilla Chingaipe is an award-winning journalist and filmmaker. Chingaipe’s latest documentary series, Third Culture Kids, is streaming on ABC iView. A regular contributor for The Saturday Paper, her first book of non-fiction is due later this year. Chingaipe is a member of the Federal Government’s Advisory Group on Australia-Africa Relations and lives in Melbourne.