Working at a counter-extremism think tank monitoring radical groups from afar, researcher Julia Ebner began to feel she was only seeing half the picture. Going Dark: The Secret Social Lives of Extremists is the gripping account of how Julia went undercover, adopted five different identities and joined a dozen extremist groups across the ideological spectrum. Julia speaks with Fiona Martin about her terrifying and illuminating journey into the darkest recesses of modern fascist thinking, the changing nature of extremism and the work being done to counter it.

Julia Ebner (International)

Julia Ebner

Julia Ebner is a researcher at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, where she leads projects on online extremism, disinformation and hate speech. She has given evidence to numerous governments, security services and parliamentary working groups, and has acted as a consultant for the UN, NATO and the World Bank. Her reporting has appeared in Guardian UK, The Independent, Prospect and Newsweek, among other publications. Julia was a key contributor to an ITV documentary on militant responses to Brexit and a Radio 4 piece on women in the far right. She is the author of The Rage: The Vicious Circle of Islamist and Far-Right Extremism. Going Dark: The Secret Social Lives of Extremists is her most recent book.

Fiona Martin (Australian)

Fiona Martin

Associate Professor Fiona Martin researches digital journalism and dialogic technologies, as well as the uses, politics and regulation of online media. She is the author of Mediating the Conversation and co-author of Sharing News Online. She is a chief investigator on the ARC-funded Discovery project 'Platform Governance: Rethinking internet regulation as media policy 2019–2022', and received the Facebook Content Policy Research Award 'Regulating Hate Speech in the Asia Pacific'.