Sarah Krasnostein spent four years researching the life of trauma cleaner Sandra Pankhurst, visiting squalid homes and watching her bring order and care to her client’s lives. Sarah discovered that Sandra has lived many lives: neglected foster child, husband and father, drag queen, gender confirmation patient, sex worker and trophy wife. The award–winning biography, The Trauma Cleaner, became one of the most discussed non-fiction books of the year. Ashley Hay talks to Sarah about how she uncovered the story of a fascinating woman who restores order among the despair of others. Supported by Audible.

Sarah Krasnostein (Australian)

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Sarah Krasnostein was born in America, studied in Melbourne and has lived and worked in both countries. Earning her doctorate in criminal law, she is a law lecturer and researcher. She lives in Melbourne, and spends part of the year working in New York City. The Trauma Cleaner is her first book that won the 2017 Victorian Prize for Literature.

Ashley Hay (Australian)

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Ashley Hay's latest novel is A Hundred Small Lessons. Her earlier work has won accolades in Australia and abroad, most recently the 2016 Bragg UNSW Press Prize for Science Writing. She has been longlisted for awards including the Miles Franklin and the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award, and shortlisted for awards including the Commonwealth Writers' Prize and the Kibble. Her previous novel, The Railwayman's Wife, received the Foundation for Australian Literary Studies' Colin Roderick Award, and People's Choice at the NSW Premier's Literary Awards. It was published in the UK, the US and in translation.