At last. A serious conversation on the advantages of being relaxed, rested, comfy and a little lazy. Robert Dessaix is one of Australia’s most highly regarded writers. His timely book The Pleasures of Leisure reminds us that working longer hours, multi-tasking and being ‘crazy busy’ all the time is eroding our freedom to simply enjoy life. Thoughtful, witty and engaging, it’s a topic we can all find time for, surely. He joins David Marr for a languid conversation.