At last. A serious conversation on the advantages of being relaxed, rested, comfy and a little lazy. Robert Dessaix is one of Australia’s most highly regarded writers. His timely book The Pleasures of Leisure reminds us that working longer hours, multi-tasking and being ‘crazy busy’ all the time is eroding our freedom to simply enjoy life. Thoughtful, witty and engaging, it’s a topic we can all find time for, surely. He joins David Marr for a languid conversation.

David Marr (Australian)

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David Marr is a journalist and broadcaster who now writes for Guardian Australia. He’s published a couple of biographies and a number of books about politics, censorship and immigration. Over the last ten years he has written a number of Quarterly Essays. His latest is The White Queen: One Nation and the Politics of Race. He previously presented Media Watch and appears regularly on Insiders and The Drum. His latest book is My Country, an anthology of essays.