Norman Swan and his son Jonathan Swan are two of Australia’s most discerning and dedicated journalistic minds. Over the past year, Australian audiences have looked to Norman, renowned physician, journalist, broadcaster and host of ABC Radio National’s Health Report and ABC’s Coronacast, and Jonathan, former Sydney Morning Herald reporter and now National Political Correspondent at Axios in the US – and host of that that viral Trump interview from 2020 – as guiding voices of reason. In this special podcast, they discuss their careers in journalism and whether there’s a Swan family secret to great reporting, with ABC’s Geraldine Doogue. 

This podcast was recorded live at the 2021 Sydney Writers' Festival.  

This recording is available on all major podcast platforms.

Norman Swan (Australian)

Norman Swan

Norman Swan hosts ABC Radio National’s Health Report and co-hosts Coronacast, a daily podcast on COVID-19. Norman is also a reporter and commentator on the ABC’s 7.30, Midday, News Breakfast and Four Corners, and a guest host on RN Breakfast. He is the recipient of a Gold Walkley Award. In the early 90s, Norman created Invisible Enemies, a series on pandemics and civilisation for Channel 4 UK, which was broadcast in 27 countries. Norman’s new book So You Think You Know What’s Good for You (Hachette) will be published in June, 2021. Norman trained in medicine and paediatrics in Aberdeen, London and Sydney before joining the ABC.

Jonathan Swan (International)

Jonathan Swan

National Political Reporter for Axios Jonathan Swan covers the White House and its intersection with Capitol Hill. Jonathan also interviews leading political figures for Axios on HBO, including interviews with Donald Trump, Jared Kushner and world leaders such as the Iraqi and Ukrainian presidents.

Geraldine Doogue (Australian)

Geraldine Doogue

Geraldine Doogue was the host of Radio Nationals Life Matters program for 11 years from its inception in 1992. She received a United Nations Media Peace Prize and two Penguin Awards for her role in ABC TV’s coverage of the Gulf War. She was the host of Compass on ABC TV from 1998 to 2017. Since 2005, she has hosted the Extra and Saturday Extra programs on Radio National. In 2018, Doogue was inducted into the Australian Media Hall of Fame.