“This notion that we could write without it being saturated with what it feels like to be faced – confronted – with the threat to what makes our lives possible, to think that one could write that without an emotional response, without it being saturated with emotion, is to write as if we were writing about what was happening on the moon, not here on Earth.” – Danielle Celermajer

Danielle Celermajer’s Summertime: Reflections on a Vanishing Future is a different kind of nature writing; it’s a philosophy, elegy, meditation. In the aftermath of last year’s bushfires, Danielle asks what we are losing in this shared, ravaged world. In her book Beyond Climate Grief, science reporter Jonica Newby considers what a personal, emotional, human response might be to global catastrophe. The two discuss these themes and their personal journeys of courage and hope in the face of disaster and uncertainty, with Suzanne Leal.

Please note, there is discussion of mental health topics and climate grief in this podcast. 

This podcast was recorded live at the 2021 Sydney Writers' Festival and is available on all major podcast platforms. 

Danielle Celermajer (Australian)

Danielle Celermajer

Danielle Celermajer is a philosopher whose work focuses on human rights, ethics, dealing with past atrocities and multispecies justice. She is a Professor at the University of Sydney and Deputy Director of the Sydney Environment Institute. Drawing on this work in her personal life, Danielle lives in an intentional multispecies community on the south coast of NSW. She wrote Summertime (Penguin Random House, 2021) while facing the devastating black summer fires of 2019 to 2020 alongside this community.

Jonica Newby (Australian)

Jonica Newby

Dr Jonica Newby is a science reporter, author, TV presenter and director best known for her two decades on ABC TV's popular weekly science program, Catalyst. She has twice won the Eureka Award, Australia's most prestigious science journalism prize, and is a recipient of a World TV Award. Known for presenting stories with a rare honesty and intimacy, Jonica's new book, Beyond Climate Grief: a journey of love, snow, fire and an enchanted beer can, charts her struggles navigating the emotional turmoil of climate change.

Suzanne Leal (Australian)

Suzanne Leal

Suzanne Leal is the author of novels The Deceptions, The Teacher’s Secret and Border Street. A regular presenter at literary events and chair of the fiction and poetry panel for the Prime Minister’s Literary Awards, she is a board member of BAD Sydney Crime Writers Festival and former senior judge for the NSW Premier’s Literary Awards. Suzanne is the host of Thursday Book Club, a relaxed, friendly book club connecting readers online.