In 2018, Layla F. Saad ran a 28-day Instagram challenge under the hashtag #MeAndWhiteSupremacy, designed to encourage those with white privilege to unflinchingly examine their complicity in upholding an oppressive power system. The challenge catalysed an awakening for thousands and led to the publication of Layla’s Me and White Supremacy, “an indispensable resource for white people who want to challenge white supremacy but don’t know where to begin” (Robin DiAngelo, White Fragility). Layla provides insight into her work in conversation with Rachael Hocking.

This recording is available on all major podcast platforms.

Me and White Supremacy is available online from Hachette

Layla F. Saad (International)

Layla F. Saad

Layla F. Saad is a globally respected writer, speaker and podcast host on the topics of race, identity, leadership, personal transformation and social change. As an East African, Arab, British, Black, Muslim woman who was born and grew up in the West, and lives in the Middle East, Layla has always sat at a unique intersection of identities from which she is able to draw rich and intriguing perspectives. Layla's work is driven by her powerful desire to 'become a good ancestor'; to live and work in ways that leave a legacy of healing and liberation for those who will come after she is gone. Me And White Supremacy is Layla's first book. Initially offered for free following an Instagram challenge under the same name, the bestselling digital Me And White Supremacy Workbook was downloaded by close to 90,000 people around the world in the space of six months, before becoming a traditionally published book. Layla earned her Bachelor of Law degree from Lancaster University in the United Kingdom. She lives in Doha, Qatar, with her husband and two children. 

Rachael Hocking (Australian)

Rachael Hocking

Rachael Hocking is a Warlpiri woman with roots in the Tanami Desert of the Northern Territory. She has been a reporter and presenter for NITV since 2015, and currently co-hosts its flagship show The Point. In 2019, she joined the Board for the Dart Centre for Journalism and Trauma in the Asia Pacific, where she advocates for better, trauma-informed reporting in Indigenous communities. Rachael is an intersectional feminist who is passionate about Aboriginal women’s rights, language revival and climate justice.